Kind of strange... I got an email notification that aussieflyboy replied to this thread, but found no reply from him or anyone else. Anyway...please, please, please, could you guys watch the following: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-518637672896741579 It is a documentary by Ben Stein himself, titled "Expelled, no Intelligence Allowed". (whoever posted it on the google video titled it wrongly creationism vs. evolution, but this is not the case at all) This is a very interesting movie, I assure you. Please, do not take this as an attempt to make anyone a believer. I just believe it is good for all to learn more about what is going on. Any comments will be greatly appreciated, hopefully not all will be scornful and hateful.