Discussion in 'The Pipe' started by blackhawk, Oct 20, 2018.
Will any take advantage of this? End of the month.
If they were going to... I'd do it before the January interview. It's a smaller list... so seniority is everything!
Not me, I am sure the flying is great, the pay and contract have improved a lot over there and with all those new aircraft coming I am sure it will be a quick upgrade there. However 18 days away is too much of a stretch for me and my family, that's the showstopper for me.
Good luck to all of you who attempt to go there.
16 days, though if you have to commute you may need to do that on the front end of day "0". Fortunately, I live close to a major airport and will rarely need to do so. But, my kids are out of the house and I'm commuting to ORD where CRJ lines give you 12 days off and low credit. Just did a 12 hour 4 day. So figure missing a commute here and there and I'm down to about 10 days off. After 20 years.
Latest word is that they will now start interviewing FOs with over 5 years at XJT.
It would be best for us all if they started with a bunch of captains off the top of the list. Otherwise, we will stagnate again once the SC arrive. The only movement will again only be into reserve captain until you leave, retire, or die. If United wants to really fix the regionals, they will have to go with "the flow."
I agree. But it doesn’t seem Senior LXJT pilots are interested.
It's an age thing. The job at K4 is exponentially more difficult if you have kids at home. For those guys with grown children or no children, it can be a dream job.
A lot of us more senior pilots have kids now.
As a more junior pilot, the 16 days on thing doesn't really bother me at all. The lack of any decent flight benefits beyond CASS is the deal breaker for me.
$200,000/yr by second year isn’t enough money to just buy tickets to travel?
For the type and frequency of travel I do, no... it's not enough.
The lack of ID 90/ZED made me hesitate.
But on the flip side my kids are nearing the age when they only have about 4 more years. My wife doesn’t nonrev. UAL does not seem as nice as DAL. And K4 get the hotel points and miles.
I'm not sure there's any hiring program out there that will really clean out the top of our list. Sure, a flow would definitely get more to leave than the CPP, but I fly with guys all the time who only have 5-10 years left who don't have any true interest in leaving because of not wanting to take a QOL hit. Maybe that's just them trying to rationalize not being able to pass the CPP, but they seem pretty adamant about not giving up their 18 days off a month, 4 weeks of vacation, etc. for less than 10 years at another airline.
However, it would definitely solve the problem of guys who are perfectly good candidates and do want to leave, but only have 10ish years left, who are seen by the majors/LCCs as "old untrainable dinosaurs with too much time in an RJ."
Where are you getting $200k?
It takes less than a year to hold 18 day off 320 lines in ewr at ual.
And at this rate some days it seems like it may take about 2 years to hold 30 day off lines in any xjt base. Hope that’s not true though.
Did you accept a class date?
Yes. Figured I'd help clear out the top of the list. I also tired of waiting for UAL to do something about us.
Congratulations. Are a lot of your peers on the ORD CRJ doing the same?
I think, at least some of the senior ones. I flew with an LCA (most of us have to do SOE on the -200 since we aren't' current), who is leaving. Commuting to ORD for a 65-hour line with 12 days off after 20 years doesn't make one want to stick around.
Take some DFW guys with you!!
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