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ExBizJet

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It was 171. Which I had actually flown before it was transferred on Amelia to CommutAir
 

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Just the facts. ILS 01 out. Only approach avail would have been RNAV 01. Touchdown occurred at 1627Z, which suggests the following one of the bottom two Atii were referenced. The RNAV 01 LNAV MDA mins for CAT C aircraft require 1 SM vis. To be fair we do not know if there were transmissions from ATC stating another visibility reading. They did go around once.

KPQI 041643Z AUTO 07005KT 3/4SM -SN SCT008 OVC013 M01/M04 A2967 RMK AO2 P0001 FZRANO RVRNO=

KPQI 041618Z AUTO 06004KT 1/2SM SN FZFG M03/M04 A2968 RMK AO2 P0000 FZRANO RVRNO=
KPQI 041556Z AUTO 08006KT 1/2SM SN FZFG OVC013 M02/M04 A2970 RMK AO2 SLP103 P0001 T10221044 FZRANO RVRNO=
 

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Dunno if C5 has the same monitored approach criteria that XJT has, but a low altitude transfer of controls may have gone wrong. One thing is perfectly clear by looking at the photos.....this wasn’t a runway excursion. There was no runway involved. 100% crash landing into the dirt/snow.
 

Zero-G

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You are officially the Brett Favre of The Pipe. Who announces their retirement and then comes back 2 weeks later??
Brett did alright.

Done at XJT. I don’t think any of us ever really quit The Pipe.
 
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Zero-G

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Dunno if C5 has the same monitored approach criteria that XJT has, but a low altitude transfer of controls may have gone wrong. One thing is perfectly clear by looking at the photos.....this wasn’t a runway excursion. There was no runway involved. 100% crash landing into the dirt/snow.
C5 doen’t have CAT II capability. If that was the reported wx prior to arriving at the FAF.... At least winds were light, so they were not wrestling the controls.

There are other unmentioned complications, so this may get ugly for C5. We might even see the term “pilot shortage” getting thrown out there once it’s all said and done as a contributing factor.

I think this is the first time someone has landed a 145 in the grass (albeit snow covered). They hit hard too looking at the discontinuity from primary touchdown to final skid. Hard as that may have been, notice all the parts stayed attached (no eng separation, wings to the tips still there) and she did not give up her passengers or crew. The 145 is one tough airplane.
 
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