another bush staffer speaks out

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  1. Sep 24, 2016 #21

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    Accident investigation 101 (as applied to witnesses): kids make better witnesses than adults because their memory of what they think they saw and heard is not corrupted by what they know or believe.

    Some witnesses are completely unbelievable. Ever been to jury duty?
     
  2. Sep 24, 2016 #22

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    First, the results are NOT classified, and show me evidence about what exactly has been classified.

    Regardless, releasing the data once gave the perpetrators too much info already, the first WTC bombing court case had engineering information become puplic, including the fact the buildings were made to sustain a hit from a 707 (largest plane at the time). So simply put, the hijackers had a playbook of what type of plane WOULD bring them down, hence them using that to select larger planes. Should we release the information and hand them ANOTHER blue print on how to bring buildings down?
     
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  3. Sep 25, 2016 #23

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    The difference is you believe extremely unlikely things told by professional liars.

    I only ask for believing in the laws of nature and that those who destroyed evidence or profited are sentenced to prison.
     
  4. Sep 26, 2016 #24

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    If 1000's of people in NIST members take the time to program the laws of nature (physics) into supercomputers that take years to compute results precisely for fools like you is somehow descrIbed as IGNORING the laws of nature, I can't help you and should not have wasted my time. These NIST members, and the other 1000's of scientists and engineers all don't collectively have anything to gain, yet their all "in on it"...... ;-) ;-) ;-) .....ok?!?!?

    The situation, the 'motives' or lack thereof and conclusions are precisely the opposite of what you describe. It's like opposite day, hopeless and frankly....pretty scary facts can be ignored so easily.
     
  5. Sep 27, 2016 #25

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    Ok I see thousands of near impossible coincidences. But ill admit your superior thought process with one simple test.
    Take one of the typical prefabricated sections consists of three spandrel plates welded to three box columns. Each section being three floors high. Made of 1/4 inch thick steel plate. Connect the section at top and bottom then impact it at 600 mph into a wing connected to 767. If like in a cartoon the wing cuts through the steel I stand corrected. I think the wing will bend back and the steel will bend like a guard rail.


    http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian/WTC/wtc-demolition.htm
     
  6. Oct 25, 2016 #26

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    "Lucky Larry" Silverstein

    Sept 25, 2006

    BY: _lifeforce@rockymountains.net_



    You've got to be lucky to make $4 Billion killing on a 6-month investment of $124 Million

    Larry Silverstein is the New York property tycoon who purchased the entire WTC complex just 6 months prior to the 9/11 attacks. That was the first time in its 33-year history the complex had EVER changed ownership.

    Mr. Silverstein's first order of business as the new owner was to change the company responsible for the security of the complex. The new security company he hired was Securacom (now Stratasec). George W. Bush's brother, Marvin Bush, was on its board of directors, and Marvin's cousin, Wirt Walker III, was its CEO. According to public records, not only did Securacom provide electronic security for the World Trade Center, it also covered Dulles International Airport and United Airlines --- two key players in the 9/11 attacks.

    The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for many years to the Bush family. KuwAm has been linked to the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on the board of Stratesec.

    Now, consider: The members of a small cabal owned the WTC complex, controlled its electronic security, and also controlled the security not only for one of the airlines whose aircraft were hijacked on 9/11, but the airport from which they originated.

    Another little "coincidence" -- Mr. Silversten, who made a down-payment of $124 million on this $3.2 billion complex, promptly insured it for $7 Billion. Not only that, he covered the complex against "terrorist attacks".

    Following the attacks, Silverstein filed TWO insurance claims for the maximum amount of the policy ($7B), based on the two -- in Silverstein's view -- separate attacks. The insurance company, Swiss Re, paid Mr. Silverstein $4.6 Billion --- a princely return on a relatively paltry investment of $124 million.

    There's more. You see, the World Trade Towers were not the real estate plum we are led to believe. From an economic standpoint, the trade center -- subsidized since its inception by the NY Port Authority -- has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. How could Silverstein Group have been ignorant of this?

    The towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements, most of which related to removal and replacement of building materials declared to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built. It was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due to the known asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from demolishing the buildings.

    The projected cost to disassemble the towers: $15 Billion. Just the scaffolding for the operation was estimated at $2.4 Billion!

    In other words, the Twin Towers were condemned structures. How convenient that an unexpected "terrorist" attack demolished the buildings completely.

    WTC Building 7 was a part of the WTC complex, and covered under the same insurance policy. This 47-storey steel-framed structure, which was NOT struck by an aircraft, mysteriously collapsed 8 hours later that same day into its own footprint at freefall speed --- exactly in the manner of the Twin Towers.

    How could this have happened? Mr. Silverstein gave the world the answer when he slipped up during a PBS television interview a year later, on 9/11/2002:

    "I remember getting a call from the...er...fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

    As anyone who knows anything about construction can tell you, "Pull" is common industry jargon for a controlled demolition.

    One thing is for sure, the decision to 'pull' WTC 7 would have delighted many people. Especially because it has been reported that thousands of sensitive files relating to some of the biggest financial scams in history --- including Enron and WorldCom -- were stored in the offices of some of the building's tenants:

    - US Secret Service

    - NSA

    - CIA

    - IRS

    - BATF

    - SEC

    - NAIC Securities

    - Salomon Smith Barney

    - American Express Bank International

    - Standard Chartered Bank

    - Provident Financial Management

    - ITT Hartford Insurance Group

    - Federal Home Loan Bank

    The Securities and Exchange Commission has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed by the collapse of WTC 7. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency's major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom. .." Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive," said Max Berger of New York's Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. "This is a disaster for these cases."

    Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center. The bank says that back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December 2000 were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack.

    Inside WTC 7 was the US Secret Service's largest field office with more than 200 employees. "All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building," according to US Secret Service Special Agent David Curran.

    What a neat, complete, and fortuitous turn of events was 9/11.

    Incidentally, it's worth noting that one of Lucky Larry's closest friends --- a person with whom it's said he speaks almost daily by phone --- is none other than former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
     
  7. Nov 1, 2016 #27

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    I will just believe the 9/11 commission report on what happened to building 7.

    Oh wait, there is absolutely no mention of it? Hmmmm.
     
  8. Nov 1, 2016 #28

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    I just chuckle when I hear the term "bush staffer".....and that's as much thought as I am willing to give to this nonsense.
     
  9. Nov 1, 2016 #29

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    My favorite is when they headline that even a Rockefeller has testified......they say it like he is part of the famous family but no such person exists. At best, he is just some guy who shares that name, but nobody seems to know who he is. You have to ask yourself, why would the conspiracy people purposly mislead their listeners?

    Do any pilots believe in the chemtrail conspiracy? I have not met any. I always assumed it was because we know what contrails are, and the general public does not.
     
  10. Nov 3, 2016 #30

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    One step thought processes just do what your owner's tell you. Google "Reece committee". Petroleum fuel contrails are toxic enough even without additives. Hydrogen based fuels are prolly better. But its easy waste disposal for the oil companies.

    Pretty sure Patrick Henry didn't say "give me security forces or give me death.

    "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -- Dresden James

    "When a man or woman is honestly mistaken and hears the truth, they will either quit being mistaken, or they will cease to be honest. "

    Because false doctrine is so abundant: "The Truth will be the Strangest Thing you will ever Hear" - Paul Smith
     
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    W,

    Let me put it in the realm you are an expert in, Aviation, and airline business. If you were to suggest that a large corporation maybe, I don't know decided to spend millions of dollars on Autopark robots for most of their gates when there doesn't seem to be much reward for anyone in that type of expenditure or really much need for the product. And you suggested that perhaps some executive had a relative or friend that owned the company that sells the product and it was all some devious plan to get rich and swindle the public and the shareholders, I would be highly motivated to believe you even though all your evidence is conjecture and conspiracy related. However, if the ruse starts to resemble a Hollywood Movie super villain story you are going to lose me every time.

    Let me ask you this. And let me preface this with almost everything your Bush Staffer video guy states, I actually agree with. I do think he had Daddy issues, And I think he was an intellectually lazy President who made lots of poor decisions. But I don't think he was behind an elaborate treasonous crime to start a war and or make a bunch of money for some trillion Aire's building seven owner. Or any of the other crazy (even insane) accusations by the Internet False Flag Zealots who keep piling on and changing their reasons because their original accusations keep getting debunked.....

    But why didn't Bush plant evidence that would connect the act directly to Sadamm Hussein? Or anyone for that matter? Why wouldn't he just set the plan in motion, and then heroically stop it? Think about that for a second. If he saved the Country from an attack, that he had full control over, he would have beeen revered as the greatest American Hero EVER. He could have gone to congress and got anything he wanted. But instead he just let it happen so he could go to war? Or was it money? Or was it that other guy who planted charges in the empty buildings? I mean, c'mon man! When you make these accusations out loud, do you hear yourself?

    So I went on a bit of a tangent there, but let me get back to my original question. Why do the sights you commonly link purposely reference a Nick Rockefeller the way they do? I know you are familiar with the story I'm talking about. It is so obvious what their intent is. Why don't you have the same skepticism in that type of reporting that you have for so called mainstream media outlets? I mean media does this type of thing all the time and that's why people don't really believe media, but when your sights do basically the same thing, there isn't the same criticism. I share the same cynicism as you, but I am a firm believer in Occams Razor.
     
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    ^^ Like ^^
     
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    I focus on sources motivated by the "bill of rights" which should unite every human being.

    Disinformation. Misinformation. Propaganda. Outright lies. Purposeful distractions. Misleading bias.
    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/go...d-fact-check-click-share/#Vs7Uw6uRgHbGphWE.99

    Absurd is to say bush did 911, he just did what he was told. Follow the money. Fraud is the only thing that has no limit or "statute of limitations". Even the universe has limits.

    How are the "Georgia guide stones" allowed to stand?

    Skull and Bones only has 15 members how is it two of those Bush and Kerry act like they ran against each other?

    I would only buy stock in a corporation where the owners stand to loose their investment also.
     
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    Newark AFB, Manhattan project phase 2, Lend Lease program. How the international bankers create the
    Problem: cold war
    Reaction: public fear based demands
    Solution: unlimited military profits

    Speech from the 1960s. Major George Racey Jordan was responsible for facilitating the transfer of American Arms and Technology to the USSR during WWII under the Lend Lease Program. He kept a detailed diary including Primary Source documentation.
    https://youtu.be/IG0bViDVmTE
    http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.c...-jordan-state-department-whistleblower/178618
     
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    Today is the fourth anniversary of the passing of The Internet’s Own Boy The Story of Aaron Swartz. Provided more information to the public than any man who ever lived.
    https://youtu.be/hCwjDuoJK0E
     
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    Pity response.
     

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