F the TSA. What in the world can we bring with us - weapons, bombs, etc - that we can't accomplish with our f'ing hands?!?! SERIOUSLY!!!! TSA has never had, and will never get, my respect. SECURITY THEATER!
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...ted;photovideo go to 6:17 in the clip. interesting perspective on liquids. and 8:35 talks about them missing things (60-70% failure rate?)
Why do you feel you need legal counsel? You may have a hearing for a missed trip. I guess if you feel you or ALPA cannot represent you adequately then legal counsel may be in order. By the way, I'm not sure if the company can force the employee handbook for instances where you are off duty and merely positioning yourself to your place of work. I guess that would be for lawyers and judge to answer. Good luck.
I believe this has sparked me into writing up a letter to forward to my congressmen and senators to convey my disgust at the whole process. Not that they will do anything about it, but a couple thousand letters from pilots(if we can get it setup) would be a way for congress to possibly act.
It's this "illusion of security" and "security theater" that gives the flying public the confidence to get on a plane and hence we get to keep our jobs. No security system is perfect so that's not a reason to throw the whole system out, work to improve it.
This has become the price of admission for me. I had a knee replaced 2 years ago. I always alarm when I pass through. Always had to be wanded. The new measure is no more wanding. Now I get the super pat down. This includes hair, breasts, crotch, etc. Really a terrible way to start a pairing. Crew pass can't come soon enough for me.
BTW, screeners are not happy with this new procedure. Even with gloves they don't like touching these areas.
It is disgusting that this badge toting morons think that they can just push us around. I am all for the safty and security of our airports but when is enough? It is ok for rampers, catering, and CS agents to just bypass security and yet we put our asses on the line each day but we are the threats. Pilots and flight attendants are probably the last ones that are going to make a threat againsts an aircraft especially if we are working that flight. Yet the TSA can just keep taking away our dignity one pat down at a time. Honestly what type of picture does that paint to the public to see their flight crew getting a pat down from TSA? Most of the traveling public will see this and think that their pilot is a threat, this is why crew pass is needed and the moustach club running ALPA should have worked harder on this and hopefully the new leadership will make Crew Pass a top priority.
First and foremost, TSA... enough said.
With that in mind, we have no guaranteed Constitutional right to fly, just as there is not a Constitutional right to drive. You do have a right to privacy and if you choose not to surrender some of your privacy to fly, you are free to find alternate means. You have the right to move freely about the country, but that extends only to your own two feet.
I'm not saying this to be nonsympathetic to your cause. We are continually scrutinized in ways that do nothing to increase security and it's ridiculous; I just don't believe you have a civil liberties case here.
Yeah but where does it say they we should be treated the same as passengers. They don't go through the background checks, psychological profiles training etc. I think some of you forget that we are not the same and should be screened accordingly.