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08-21-2008, 04:10 PM
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Obama's stance on abortion...
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08-21-2008, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Whirlpool
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He would like you to have one, he will pay for it, and possibly abort yourself.
Progress means change but change doesn't always mean progress.....
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08-21-2008, 10:12 PM
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Personnally, I am pro-life. However, I also realize that no president in the foreseeable future will be able to overturn the abortion laws in the United States.
As far as Obama is concerned, I thought his answer during the faith forum reference "when does life begin?" was much more thoughtful and respectful to the American people than McCain's. McCain's answer was nothing more than a pander to the religous right.
Obama's answer was more honest, "that's above my pay grade"...essentially he deferred that wisdom to God and God alone. He then went on to a plan to try to reduce the need/desire for abortions. I think that makes for a wise compromise.
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08-21-2008, 11:08 PM
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he wouldn't be for abortions so much if he just remembered to remove the dam gust lock! the checklist is there for a reason man!
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08-22-2008, 12:40 AM
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You want to discuss abortions. Simple it is none of my **** business what my neighbor does in their life. I have made my choices, they are mine, and nobody needs to tell me how to live or what I can or can not do. Isn't that the republican platform, freedoms for Americans, yet they pander to pro-life people.
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08-22-2008, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by APU
Personnally, I am pro-life. However, I also realize that no president in the foreseeable future will be able to overturn the abortion laws in the United States.
As far as Obama is concerned, I thought his answer during the faith forum reference "when does life begin?" was much more thoughtful and respectful to the American people than McCain's. McCain's answer was nothing more than a pander to the religous right.
Obama's answer was more honest, "that's above my pay grade"...essentially he deferred that wisdom to God and God alone. He then went on to a plan to try to reduce the need/desire for abortions. I think that makes for a wise compromise.
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Nah, it was just a cop out. He might be the person who nominates the next supreme court justice. Its not going to be God's wisdom alone that might decide this issue. Part of it will fall squarley on the shoulders of the next president and Obama once again was able to talk his way out of it.
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Originally Posted by preludespeeder
You want to discuss abortions. Simple it is none of my **** business what my neighbor does in their life. I have made my choices, they are mine, and nobody needs to tell me how to live or what I can or can not do. Isn't that the republican platform, freedoms for Americans, yet they pander to pro-life people.
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Its none of our business if your neighbor kills someone?
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08-22-2008, 02:17 AM
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Never understood this entire thing. Let's see if I have it straight....Republicans are against abortion but for the death penalty and Democrats are against the death penalty but for abortion. Hmmmm. Interesting.
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08-22-2008, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MJacobsen
Never understood this entire thing. Let's see if I have it straight....Republicans are against abortion but for the death penalty and Democrats are against the death penalty but for abortion. Hmmmm. Interesting.
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One is innocent and the other one committed a heinous crime.
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08-22-2008, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by lap
... and the other one committed a heinous crime.
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Yeah Lap:
True until 10 years later DNA evidence proves otherwise. 
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08-22-2008, 11:40 AM
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Solution: every adult who is in favor of abolishing abortion (that includes Lap) must add their name to a national list of people willing to adopt the resulting children.
I find it interesting that most people who are so against abortion are the same people who also discourage any kind of government assistance to care for these children who are born into severe poverty. No one cares about their health after they are born (just as long as they are born, right?) or their education.
But back on topic - ie, politicians and abortion - all politicians do is exploit this topic of abortion. They play up their stance to encourage uninformed and ignorant voters to vote for them based upon this ONE subject and not the aggregate total of their entire platform. One will rarely see a political television/radio ad addressing the topic of abortion in a large city, but you will see numerous ads on this topic in a small town (especially in the south). Another reason for all politicians to be ashamed of themselves.
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