kidicarus5897

oh yea, and did anybody see Richard Dawkins in AUS yesterday at Book People signing his book? I missed him by 20 minutes............I'm going to blame god for that one

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Wes Mantooth

Hey guys I just finished an excellent book about this debate. It's called "Atheism Explained" by David Ramsay Steele. It Basically gives almost every argument for and against the concept of God. I have read most the of the "new" atheist books from Dawkins, Harris, and Hitchens and I didn't really care for them. This book however is level headed all the way through and I feel it is probably the most concise and well done book on the subject. Check it if you are an atheist or theist. The arguments are well laid out for both sides, but obviously the author sides with the atheist arguments.

Amazon.com: Atheism Explained: From Folly to Philosophy (Ideas Explained): David Ramsay Steele: Books

Also a great quote I just found:
"I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for
billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered
the slightest inconvenience from it."
Mark Twain

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kidicarus5897

Any Creator.....God, or whoever creationists believe did the creating.......

The bible.....any version, and any church preaching salvation through Jesus H. Christ

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Yariv

Happy purim to all that celebrate it. if you need an explanation of what it is PM me. I'm still waiting for answers about easter (previous page).

and what does the H stand for in jesus h christ?

I like another quote by twain about the placebo effect, though I don't have a direct reference so I'll paraphrase: "it was hot and I couldn't fall asleep. finally I threw my shoe at the window, breaking it, to let some fresh air in. I fell asleep immediately. in the morning I saw that I broke the glass door of a cabinet, not the window."

another great quote that says the same thing, though I don't know the author, is "god helps those who help themselves."

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irishNJ

1. The story goes that Jesus dies on Good Friday (today, supposedly 3 pm) so (if you're RC, at least) you fast (only one meal in the day), abstain (no meat, only fish as all the fridays during lent) when you go to church usually at 3 pm there's no mass (only day in the year) just a long-*** gospel reading, limited music (no solo instruments, bells) etc etc.

Then Easter Sunday comes which is the celebration of the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. Basically the biggest celebration of the whole church year as the whole of Christianity is based on this one fact - his resurrection from the dead. In reality everyone is just happy the 40 days of lent is over and you can eat chocolate again without your Mother getting annoyed.

2. The Western Churches base the Easter date using the new Gregorian Calender (our day to day calender) which was introduced in 1500's by Pope Gregory. The Eastern churches still use the old Julian calender that was in use before that.

3. In reality, as with all the Christian festivals, Easter is just stolen and adapted from the old Pagan religions (just as is Christmas etc) which was a lot more fun as a religion. The Spring Equinox festival called Eostar (notice any similarity). Anyway the whole spring pagan theme is to do with rebirth and rejuvination and whatnot which is symbolized by rabbits and eggs etc.

2percent

I have not read all that has been said on this... just want to know if any
one has asked the question....

Can you prove there is NOT a GOD????

Yariv

Thank you, Irish, that was exactly what I was looking for.


Yes, the question was asked several times.

No, we cannot prove that there is no god. if we could, this would be page 2.

we also cannot prove that there is no santa claus, tooth fairy, superman, and purple tigers (just because they've never been seen doesn't mean they don't exist).

why is it that you need us to prove there is no god, but you don't need us to prove santa claus doesn't exist? to my knowledge, there is no physical or logical evidence that god exists, therefore no reason to believe he exists.

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2percent

sorry for the repeated question.... Just to let you know i would say i am a
new "Christian".... and have been doing lots of study about creation vs
evolution.... and to have either point of view takes faith.... but more faith
to believe in evolution...or atheism

Now to be able to prove Santa, was he not an actual person??
possible... and as for the purple tigers maybe in the near future... and
to believe in then would take faith as well....
i guess what i am trying to say is at least God and Christ have an
explanation.... to start with.... The BIBLE, and what sets the Bible apart
from any other book is 1/3 of it is prophetic... no other book is like that...

so i guess my point, would be there is and explanation of God... we may not understand all of it... but maybe he doesn't want us too... or we just can't
understand....

?

everything that exists can be understood