There is no god. - Page 4

mckpickle · 10-14-2006, 11:28 AM

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First, my belief. I'm not sure if God is real or not. I believe in SOME sort or higher power. Maybe little green men that put us here that are billions of years more advanced than us. But what I certainly don't believe in is organized religion.

Since the dawn of time on this little planet more people have been killed in the name of "god" than any other reason.

Frankly the thread seems to have been started to kick over a shiit pile. And by Rick's reaction we can see it worked. And thats what bothers me about "Chistians, Muslums", or whaterver. You have no tolerance for those that don't believe in your little hocus pocus 2000 year old carpenter story. I tolerate and accept that you want to believe in it. Heck, I fully support your RIGHT to do so. I wish Christians would do the same for people who choose not to believe. But for some reason those of us who don't believe in a book written by some of the most corrupt men in history who's only goal was controling the masses, are judged by you. I just would like to know, what gives you the right?

Who has judged you? You are free to choose what you want to believe and I will respect that.

You ATTACK those of religion when you can yet you condemn those that you think attack you for your lack of belief?

Look back at what you wrote and tell me that is not an attack on people of faith. Blame it on your "Irish" heritage or whatever copout you are using this week. You demand those of fatih not to judge you but YOU CONSTANTLY judge them? You are a hypocrit of the worst kind. It shows up in almost everything you post on this site. Honestly, I think you have some serious issues...and it goes beyond this thread. You have some anger issues that you need to work out....but I am sure you will blame it on someone or something else like you always do. Your post is filled with evidence of your lack of coherent thought, ignorance and contradictive nature.

By the way..it is Muslim....not Muslum......

You cannot lump Christians and Muslim together when it comes to religious history. Before you make statements like that, do a little research.

You also forgot to slam the Jews.

What higher power do you think exist?

Complete ignorance must be bliss......

Well Tim, I'm sorry you took my post that way as it was not my intent. I was simply pointing out that the religous right seems to always extent their belief on those of us that don't.

Thank you for the proper spelling of Muslim. I will try to not make that mistake again. :wink:

As far as the rest of the post. I won't even bother. Take a few shots at me. Maybe it'll make you back off ALPA or whatever other cause you have an issue with for the day.

C130Loadm · 10-14-2006, 11:37 AM

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As far as the rest of the post. I won't even bother. Take a few shots at me. Maybe it'll make you back off ALPA or whatever other cause you have an issue with for the day.

Thanks for not disappointing me...

I think I know who your higher power is.

Sad really.....get some help.

Mitch · 10-14-2006, 11:43 AM

I gotta say, i'm more with steve here....

mckpickle · 10-14-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by C130Loadm

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As far as the rest of the post. I won't even bother. Take a few shots at me. Maybe it'll make you back off ALPA or whatever other cause you have an issue with for the day.

Thanks for not disappointing me...

I think I know who your higher power is.

Sad really.....get some help.

You are just getting entertaining. Really keep it coming, I'm a big boy. Or call me It's been at least 12 hours since my last verbal assault by a disgruntled pilot. Tim, you are just too much sometimes, really.

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Nova · 10-14-2006, 11:45 AM

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You cannot lump Christians and Muslim together when it comes to religious history. Before you make statements like that, do a little research.

Don't lump Christians and Muslims together? I hate to break it to you champ but there have been 2000 years of those to parties interacting. What form of religious history due you follow? Here's a prime example of Christians loving their Muslim brothers...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade

It seems most folks aren't as well versed in other religions as they portray themselves to be. Spend some time looking at them and you'd see that there are more similarities in Islam, Christianity and Judaism than some are willing to believe, they are all Abrahamic Religions. Of course 2000+ years of fighting and killing have been waged over how each group basically believes the same thing but how they interpret the details differently. How's that for organized religion?

Here's a good place to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religion

C130Loadm · 10-14-2006, 12:11 PM

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You cannot lump Christians and Muslim together when it comes to religious history. Before you make statements like that, do a little research.

Don't lump Christians and Muslims together? I hate to break it to you champ but there have been 2000 years of those to parties interacting. What form of religious history due you follow? Here's a prime example of Christians loving their Muslim brothers...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade

It seems most folks aren't as well versed in other religions as they portray themselves to be. Spend some time looking at them and you'd see that there are more similarities in Islam, Christianity and Judaism than some are willing to believe, they are all Abrahamic Religions. Of course 2000+ years of fighting and killing have been waged over how each group basically believes the same thing but how they interpret the details differently. How's that for organized religion?

Here's a good place to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religion

Go back and carefully re-read my post. The foundations of the two religions (their history) are quite different. Their relationship since their foundations are surely chaotic.

By the way, there has NOT been 2000 years of the two interacting. What do you base that on? Use another source other than Wikipedi..it is flawed.

I have studied Islam and was raised Catholic.

C130Loadm · 10-14-2006, 12:18 PM

All because someone believes in the God (whatever form he takes), does not make them extreme right wingers. There are extremes within every collection of people and they are are causing many of the worlds problems.

mckpickle · 10-14-2006, 12:20 PM

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All because someone believes in the God (whatever form he takes), does not make them extreme right wingers. There are extremes within every collection of people and they are are causing many of the worlds problems.

This we can truely agree on!

Nova · 10-14-2006, 12:31 PM

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The foundations of the two religions (their history) are quite different.The foundations of the two religions (their history) are quite different.

Muslims believe that the Jewish God is the same as their God and that Jesus is a divinely inspired prophet, but not God. Thus, both the Torah and the Gospels are believed to be based upon divine revelation, but Muslims believe them to have been corrupted (both accidentally through errors in transmission and intentionally by Jews and Christians over the years). Muslims revere the Qur'an as the final uncorrupted word of God brought through the last prophet, Muhammad, and Islam is viewed as a final correction of Judaism and Christianity.

It's all just different interpretations. The foundations are quite different? In the details but you are missing the bigger picture. Time to go back to school?

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By the way, there has NOT been 2000 years of the two interacting. What do you base that on? Use another source other than Wikipedi..it is flawed.

You're correct, I was in error as Muslims and Christians are closer to 1500 years which is only a drop in the bucket. :roll: Now the Christians and Jews have been killing each other a lot longer but you would know where to find that source in the Bible a lot easier than I. I would guess that first death took place about 2006 years ago.

Stephan Dupourque · 10-14-2006, 12:55 PM

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