aussieflyboy

Hilarious... My imaginary friend is more correct than your imaginary friend

kidicarus5897

Got a question. how many of you who believe in god believe in "fate," "gods' plan" or the "meant to be" philosophy? I am curious because, despite what one chooses to believe about god on their own time, this belief seems to be quite detramental to the real world. Example: you are in a relationship, and the other person makes the comment, "if it is meant to be, we will stay together," or you have a mesa airline interview and you think to yourself, "if I get the job, it was meant to be, and if I don't, then well, God must have other plans for me." Of all the things that come from a belief in an all mighty, this line of thinking kills me. Ever think that the reason the relationship didn't work out is because you didn't try hard enough, couldn't learn to communicate well/etc.......or the reason you didn't get the job (or did) is because you aren't good enough/not a people person/don't have the qualifications/etc. Of the people I have heard say this kind of stuff, the only thing I ever walk away thinking is, what an amazing ability that person has for not taking any responsibility for anything in their lives. God has a plan.......BS! Carpe f*ckin diem. I know it may seem easier to believe that there is a higher power guiding your every choice, and that the consequence is not really your fault. Let me guess, if something good happens, you were blessed, and if something bad happens, well- god has a plan and we shouldn't question it. Every choice we make in our lives is exactly that; our choice. Nothing out there helps guide you in the right direction. (and if I am wrong, I need to have a sit-down with zeus about why he decided to make that cute little puppy run across the street and get run over and killed by a family in front of a church last week. Must be a pretty messed up plan he has...)
If the believers in god can't seem to understand the athiest, at least understand that we are forced to take full responsibility for our lives, and to do good for the sake of doing good and not for the fear of eternal damnation. that, and we like to sleep in on sundays.......

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Hey, it's not lying if what I said would be true if the facts were different......

GOODOLEDAYS1016

UNI-VERSE: contracted latin word for "one spoken sentence" it also translates into everything turning as one or one full turn. ( Genisis 1:3 - God said "Let there be...and it was so".
COSMOS: translated means the order. The order of God's work took seven days. Can also be translated to mean reflecting the concept of contemplating the divine organisation (Cosmos) of the nature
CARBON DATING: please see and read Doesn’t Carbon-14 Dating Disprove the Bible? - Answers in Genesis .


My logic and knowledge have given me enough common sense to know the truth. I know where my faith will remain, and that is with Jehovah.
And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine". (REVELATION 6:6)
(oil and fuel) Pump prices at new record highs - Oil & energy - MSNBC.com
(food and riots/rations) ABC News: Why Are So Many Fighting For Food?

"For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God". (ROMANS 14:11)
Not much time left here on this planet.

2percent

AMEN.......

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has them science changed thems mind!!! AGAIN shoot i aint ever gona figure it out

Fats Schindee

There's not? Well, I can't argue that! Since it was predicted in a book, it must come true! Oh wait... people have been making that claim for ages... and we're still here. Huh.

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"And if you say to me tomorrow,
Oh what fun it all would be,
Then what's to stop us, pretty baby,
But what is and what should never be."

-Led Zeppelin

kidicarus5897

Geee, if that there done be the origin of the words, then it done must be true! It's all so clear to me now. If it's latin, well then, who are we to argue?

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Hey, it's not lying if what I said would be true if the facts were different......

Fats Schindee

It's hilarious in the context of this thread. But the reality of it is quite sad... so many wars and deaths have been caused by that exact sentiment...

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"And if you say to me tomorrow,
Oh what fun it all would be,
Then what's to stop us, pretty baby,
But what is and what should never be."

-Led Zeppelin

Fats Schindee

You can use Answers in Genesis as a source, just don't expect it to be taken seriously in a discussion about science. There is hardly anything on that site that is based on actual science. At best, it's pseudo-science, and at worst (which is often the case), it's just misleading, mis-informed, drivel. They make the claim that modern Homo Sapiens lived at the same time as the dinosaurs (that Creation "Museum" that they opened even has a display showing man riding a dinosaur)... which of course was less than 6000 years ago. C'mon, really??

This is taken from the link you provided:
Carbon-14 (14C), also referred to as radiocarbon, is claimed to be a reliable dating method for determining the age of fossils up to 50,000 to 60,000 years. If this claim is true, the biblical account of a young earth (about 6,000 years) is in question, since 14C dates of tens of thousands of years are common.1

When a scientist’s interpretation of data does not match the clear meaning of the text in the Bible, we should never reinterpret the Bible.

The first paragraph is logical, and even leads to a good point - the biblical account of a young earth is in question. But it's the stubborn, close-minded refusal to even think about accepting that conclusion that gets me. That's the complete opposite of the objectivity of science.

Why can't these people accept change? Hell, even the last pope (JPII) admitted evolution is an accepted theory, and can be compatible with Christianity:

Today, almost half a century after the publication of the encyclical, new knowledge has led to the recognition of the theory of evolution as more than a hypothesis. It is indeed remarkable that this theory has been progressively accepted by researchers, following a series of discoveries in various fields of knowledge. The convergence, neither sought nor fabricated, of the results of work that was conducted independently is in itself a significant argument in favor of this theory. (taken from CATHOLIC LIBRARY: Truth Cannot Contradict Truth (1996) )

My thoughts on the ability to be open-minded to change can be summed up as thus:

It's beneficial for society to study the past... but detrimental to live in it.

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"And if you say to me tomorrow,
Oh what fun it all would be,
Then what's to stop us, pretty baby,
But what is and what should never be."

-Led Zeppelin

GOODOLEDAYS1016

"And the Pharisees came forth, and began to question with him, seeking of him a sign from heaven, tempting him". (MARK 8:11)


"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
"And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables". (2TIMOTHY 4:3,4)

aussieflyboy

Stop using "the gospel according to Paddy Leprechaun" as evidence for the Flying Spaghetti Monster!!!