American Eagle in the news:(GOOD NEWS) - Page 3

ClearRight · 09-04-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by k.a.m.

I guess they were impressed with all of her "turban time". Sorry, couldn't resist (I'm still laughing as I'm writing this).

If she put a little spinner on top, she could log "Turban-prop", time. She would then be even more marketable in this economy, when everyone starts flying Q400s.

hopeful23 · 09-04-2008, 02:32 PM

Mr elgeneral you are an idiot. Where do you draw the line? What a bout the military? Do we not make the woman wear pants if it's against their religion? If someone is a satanist do we let them wear all black with a pentigram hanging around their neck? This a pandoras box and Eagle should be ashamed a precident has been set.

Jeff · 09-04-2008, 02:33 PM

I'm just an idiot with a screwdriver, but would a turban slow her or prevent her from putting on the O2 mask in an emergency situation? Are turbans easily ripped off a head like a baseball cap?

punkpilot48 · 09-04-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff

I'm just an idiot with a screwdriver, but would a turban slow her or prevent her from putting on the O2 mask in an emergency situation? Are turbans easily ripped off a head like a baseball cap?

I'm sure you can get it off pretty quick. Trying to use this as an excuse to not allow it would be digging. Hell if she's in the rj shed have to take off the headset anyway and I'm sure they both could come off in one pull.

That being said not allowing AE to stand up to its own "beliefs" (read:FOM) is against the constitution in my eyes. No one forced her to work there or in the airlines for that matter. I'm sure she is a nice person but would the same apply if I joined a cult that said we have to wear all white?

Jeff · 09-04-2008, 02:51 PM

I wasn't digging. I honestly did not know.

elgeneralisimo · 09-04-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hopeful23

Mr elgeneral you are an idiot. Where do you draw the line? What a bout the military? Do we not make the woman wear pants if it's against their religion? If someone is a satanist do we let them wear all black with a pentigram hanging around their neck? This a pandoras box and Eagle should be ashamed a precident has been set.

Hey a$$hole. Ill tell you where you draw the line. Freedom of Religion is not inclusive to Christians only. Do you know anything about Sikhs? I guess not. She should be allowed to wear the turban if she pleases. Where do you draw the line? She should not be allowed to carry the dagger her religion requires her to carry. Obviously a dagger can be used as a weapon.
She shows something you dont have....perseverance. She climbed through obstacles and a@@holes like yourself and probably has to put up with bull$hit. I hope she get hired at a major before you.

shinysideup · 09-04-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by elgeneralisimo

Hey a$$hole. Ill tell you where you draw the line. Freedom of Religion is not inclusive to Christians only. Do you know anything about Sikhs? I guess not. She should be allowed to wear the turban if she pleases. Where do you draw the line? She should not be allowed to carry the dagger her religion requires her to carry. Obviously a dagger can be used as a weapon.
She shows something you dont have....perseverance. She climbed through obstacles and a@@holes like yourself and probably has to put up with bull$hit. I hope she get hired at a major before you.

The whole thing smacks of special treatment.

"She" shouldn't be allowed to wear the turban.

If AMR allows her to wear the turban, AMR should allow *everyone* to wear the turban. If AMR forbids non-company headwear to others, they should forbid it for her as well. If she gets to wear a turban, then AMR ought to allow the kippa and other un-obtrusive headwear as well. This has nothing to do with religious freedom, and everything to do with treating all employees equally.

I'm all for religious freedom, but freedom requires equality.

You don't get your own personal dress code, you don't get your own personal FOM, your own personal rest/duty requirements, etc. You want a change? Call your union and make sure that *all* of us can enjoy it.

Personally, I'd prefer that the turban be allowed. It doesn't seem to have a bill or similar (like on a baseball cap) that would catch on an O2 mask, so I don't see what the problem is. It's not like she wants to carry the dagger, as you said (or refuse work on the Sabbath, wear a mask-interfering beard, or other things from other religions that interfere with the job)

DMP9679 · 09-04-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by elgeneralisimo

Hey a$$hole. Ill tell you where you draw the line. Freedom of Religion is not inclusive to Christians only. Do you know anything about Sikhs? I guess not. She should be allowed to wear the turban if she pleases. Where do you draw the line? She should not be allowed to carry the dagger her religion requires her to carry. Obviously a dagger can be used as a weapon.
She shows something you dont have....perseverance. She climbed through obstacles and a@@holes like yourself and probably has to put up with bull$hit. I hope she get hired at a major before you.

Religion aside, a uniform policy is a uniform policy...Don't want to wear the uniform as stated, don't ask for that job. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the head piece there to remind you that their is someone above you? If so, the hat should be your headpiece while you are at the job.

punkpilot48 · 09-04-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff

I wasn't digging. I honestly did not know.

Oh I know you weren't I didn't mean it that way. I was just saying it would be a stretch of an argument sorry.

cfistew · 09-04-2008, 04:20 PM

Ok, so when is this thread going to develop into a "hats vs no hats" thread? Waiting patiently.