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Old 08-27-2008, 11:32 PM   #181 (permalink)
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You claim he exsists, but then you jump on the bandwagon of those that despise God. There is a definition for that and it is called lukewarm. Or you are just a liar and the truth is not in you and the god you believe in has not saved you.

He was talking to me. I told him that even though I believe in God, I still can't stand his preaching on here. This douchebag does NOT represent my faith. Your right to NOT believe is respected by me. If MY God exists, then He isn't all about punishing you for not believing in Him. That portrayal of God as an insecure little kid that demands homage or damns you to Hades is LAAAAAME. It's such an obvious mind-control vehicle. A relic of the Dark and Middle Ages, when the more educated and devious took advantage of the ignorant by keeping them in fear.
wow how I wish more people that believe in god approached it like you do! So much less over-bearing!
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Old 08-28-2008, 01:57 AM   #182 (permalink)
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But I fear Him who ... can also cast the soul into hell and destroy it.
If the soul exists, can you tell me of what it is made? And where in the body it is located? And how, when your physical body dies, it moves/travels into hell or heaven? And where does it reside before your physical body is created/born?

And if it doesn't physically exist, how can it be destroyed? Just trying to figure out how all this "metaphysical" stuff works, thanks...
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Old 08-28-2008, 03:11 AM   #183 (permalink)
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God does exsist. You simply need to trust Him. Everyone that I talk to on here is so angry with me, and for what? Because I talk about Christ? I am only trying to share the good news with you. I dont trust education, people, family, preachers, teachers, the list goes on. I have been betrayed by someone in all walks of life at some point in time or another. The fact is, Christ died for us. All of us. It is so simple. If you dont want to believe, that is fine. You have made your decision. I can only pray that Jesus will completely shatter your life and do whatever it takes to get your attention and to open your eyes.

You can call me crazy, uneducated, foolish. I dont care. I have a college degree (physics, chemistry), an IQ of 131, CFI, CFII, MEI, AGI, IGI, and again, the list goes on. But none of that means anything because when I die, it doesnt go with me. It is all nonsense. Vanity of vanities.

You choose to disect the Bible to the best of your abilities, yet less than 1/3 of the people responding have actually ever read it cover to cover. The irony in that, is you cling to evolution, athiesm, and false gods that can not and will not save you (and by this I mean education, money, status in life, etc). I preach these things because I want to and I am encouraged even more everytime I am insulted, mocked, hated, ect. I know it pleases Christ. I know that it was His final command to all that believe on His name. I hope that noone has to go to hell. But some will. I hope that all will get to experience the love of God. But some wont.

The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to those who are being saved it is the power of God. Do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
Who "will render to each one according to his deeds": eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness--indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil.

I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes.

Because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

There is none righteous, no, not one;
There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God.
They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one. There is no fear of God before their eyes. It shall be imputed to us who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead, who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised because of our justification. Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.
Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'


And you will be hated by all for My name's sake.
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father's will.
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Do not fear therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows.
Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.
Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it. He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.

You know the truth, yet you suppress it. You know the truth, yet you despise it. You turn from it and despise Him. You can and will find fault with anything that I write, but you know the truth. I started this thread to confess Christ in hopes that others may do the same.
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:10 AM   #184 (permalink)
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People jokingly refer to "drinking the kool-aid". You actually DID drink the Kool-Aid, though. You try to talk like a TV evangelist, and you fail to compel. Show a TINY amount of respect for the beliefs of others, and you may get a lot farther in your efforts. If you believe that Christ "shatters" lives in order to get believers, you truly don't get it. You are mixing your Old Testament fire and brimstone with your New Testament morality. Indulge me for a second and share your denominational background with me. For example, do you happen to believe Christ was crucified on a stump, rather than a Cross? Do you believe it is wrong to celebrate birthdays? Do you knock on people's doors and leave pamphlets? I think you know what I am asking you.

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You can call me crazy, uneducated, foolish. I dont care. I have a college degree (physics, chemistry), an IQ of 131, CFI, CFII, MEI, AGI, IGI, and again, the list goes on.
BFD. You can add THAT to your list of acronyms. I challenge your erroneous "IQ" (debunked sometime in the '90s, by the way). As for your instructor ratings...LMAO. If the list goes on, let's hear something we all didn't do.
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I would also like to personally extend a warm welcome to you Mr. PhagtasticKnuckleBaby to come talk to me one on one about this video. I'll video tape me kicking your stupid pathetic excuse for pilot arse and post it on here, TOO!!!! Right now, I am wishing more for your demise than your counterparts at Mesa!
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:51 AM   #186 (permalink)
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[quote=PhantomHawk;266781]People jokingly refer to "drinking the kool-aid". You actually DID drink the Kool-Aid, though. You try to talk like a TV evangelist, and you fail to compel. Show a TINY amount of respect for the beliefs of others, and you may get a lot farther in your efforts. If you believe that Christ "shatters" lives in order to get believers, you truly don't get it. You are mixing your Old Testament fire and brimstone with your New Testament morality. Indulge me for a second and share your denominational background with me. For example, do you happen to believe Christ was crucified on a stump, rather than a Cross? Do you believe it is wrong to celebrate birthdays? Do you knock on people's doors and leave pamphlets? I think you know what I am asking you.[quote]



by asking me these things, are you asking if I am Jehovahs witness, christadelphian, or assemblies of Yahweh? Or are you asking, because that is where your denomination lies?
Christ came into my life, I know it sounds cliched, but its the truth, in an 8x10 jail cell when I was 19. I was locked up for a hearsay (as it ended up being) burglary charge that was appearantly going to put me away for 16yrs. Too many people invaded my life with Christ and the Bible. So I decided I would give it a try and read the entire book, since I wasnt going anywhere soon. Anyway, one night while reading about half way through the book of Genisis, around 8:30pm, I passed out (which has never happened before and has never happened since) and I started dreaming. I was out at my old farm house trying to light a brush pile on fire to get it ready for a bon fire/field party that I was trying to have. this dream was like none Ihave ever had in my life. It was as vivid as being awake. Long story short, this dude shows up, ask me where I had been, I told him I didnt know. He asked where my friend was, I didnt know. So he asked me to show him where he was. I did, and when I pointed to my friend, the view changed and I saw His hand outstretched with a nail punch in the center of His palm and He said to this "friend" of mine, "all you have to do is trust Me". And as my focus changed from His hand, I realized that the guy laying on the floor was me, laying face down in a pool of blood on top of my favorite guitar, with a busch light beer bottle in one hand and a pack of smokes in the other, and I was dead as could be. I woke up and it was breakfast time.

I spent 92 days in jail total, but after having that dream, I knew I would not be going to prison. on the 92nd day, before the big court date, I hurried through the remainder of Revelations and two hours after I closed that book I was in front of the judge. Before my butt hit the chair, he told me that they (the court) were sorry for the inconveinence that was caused and I was free to go. I was back at my house within the hour. Prior to all of this, I was the lead singer in a punk band and had played with such bands as 311, rancid, blink 182, had met one of the ramones, Jimmy Eat World, had a record contract in hand, a crap job, car, and house, a handful of girlfriends and a few who turned out to be pyscho's, enough hang overs to last a life time, and was two weeks away from moving to L.A. to start recording our first professional album, then that happened. I dont care what anyone says about the course of these things, but like I said, sometimes God will shatter your life into a million pieces if you wont listen to Him when He calls for you. When I got out, our band had lost the record deal, I lost my dishwashing job, my crap car, and my crap house, and all of my friends, one by one, had eventually got tired of coming to the jail house to see their ole' friend. That is how Christ came to me. He showed me that I was dead in my sin, but if I would only trust Him, I would be saved and have eternal life with Him.

I am not perfect, and sometimes I get a little carried away with things going on in the world, airlines (especially XJT since it was my first and favorite and everyone there was awesome to work with), gas prices and the lack of leadership in our country, but then I realized that none of that is important. I dont care about the things in this world because the earth and everything in it is passing away, but God remains forever. That is why I am not the man in your picture above. That is why I preach on here the way I do. I want to share what He has done in my life and what He can and will do in your lives if you just trust in Him. He is the reason I turned my back on evolution, and athiesm, and anything else that denounces God. He is the reason I am so persistent.

Sorry it took so long to respond, I was dodging CB's and deviating all day long in my aerocommode.
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I actually don't think people have a problem with Christians. I don't, and I'm an atheist. The hostility and anger lies with you. You are the epitome of what someone means when they call someone a "douchebag".
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Good ole days, I am glad that what ever worked for you to stop causing trouble in this world is finding religion. I read your whole account and as a logical person all you have experienced is a dream that was influenced by your brain at the moment you were in. I have had dreams of falling off of cliffs, someone shooting me, spiders or other species attacking me, and so on. What does all this mean. Absolutely nothing except that my brain has some wacko things go through it at night. I respect what ever has influenced your life to be what you are today, but all of us would appreciate it if you did not come on here and try to sell us your thoughts on the world and what we should do with our life. I and many others in this world do not need to believe the fairy tale stories about god and jesus to lead a good life.

In context though, if god did exist ( i do not buy into this), if I and others leading a good life and not causing problems, why would we not be taken into heaven, just because we did not go to church and pay 10% of our money to greedy business (preachers) people. Even you had quoted that your imaginary friend (god) loves us all and wants us to be good and that going to hell is equated to sinning. I have not killed anyone, I have never cheated on someone, and I do not worship any god. So what exactly does your belief do for you that it will not do for the millions of logical people who lead good lives and who do not believe in gods. Explain that to me and I think you will find why I do not believe in religions.
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I actually don't think people have a problem with Christians. I don't, and I'm an atheist. The hostility and anger lies with you. You are the epitome of what someone means when they call someone a "douchebag".
I do have a problem with Christians though, there belief and leaders tell them they need to convert the world into what they believe. History has shown the christian religion to not be a quiet group but more of a attack all who do not follow. Now Jewish people I can handle because they realize that religion is more about guidance on a moral life and not as much about creating a cult following. Good ole days is a pretty good indication of what the christian religion does to people. Phantom hawk is the rare find in today's world. I respect him for what he believes and wish there were more like him.
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Good ole days, I am glad that what ever worked for you to stop causing trouble in this world is finding religion. I read your whole account and as a logical person all you have experienced is a dream that was influenced by your brain at the moment you were in. I have had dreams of falling off of cliffs, someone shooting me, spiders or other species attacking me, and so on. What does all this mean. Absolutely nothing except that my brain has some wacko things go through it at night. I respect what ever has influenced your life to be what you are today, but all of us would appreciate it if you did not come on here and try to sell us your thoughts on the world and what we should do with our life. I and many others in this world do not need to believe the fairy tale stories about god and jesus to lead a good life.

In context though, if god did exist ( i do not buy into this), if I and others leading a good life and not causing problems, why would we not be taken into heaven, just because we did not go to church and pay 10% of our money to greedy business (preachers) people. Even you had quoted that your imaginary friend (god) loves us all and wants us to be good and that going to hell is equated to sinning. I have not killed anyone, I have never cheated on someone, and I do not worship any god. So what exactly does your belief do for you that it will not do for the millions of logical people who lead good lives and who do not believe in gods. Explain that to me and I think you will find why I do not believe in religions.
It may have been a dream, but it was a dream that I will never forget. It was a dream unlike any that I have ever had in my entire life so far. Furthermore, I had only been reading Bible for about a week (and I was still in Genisis) and hadnt even read about or understood anything about Jesus. So, you call it what you want, I think it was my wake up call.

Being a believer does not mean I lead a good life or do/did good things. It is about believing in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, being crucified for our sake, resurrected on the third day, and being eternally alive at the right hand of the throne of God. It is not by works that we get saved. We can not save our selves. With man, this is impossible, but with God nothing is impossible. By faith in Christ alone, will you be saved.

God does in fact love us, so much that He gave His only Son as a propitiation for us. Yes, He does want us to be good, but not on our own accord. He sent His Son to die in our place. Read revelations. There is no partiality with God. If you sin, you sin. Have you ever told a lie? Looked at a woman (whether married or not) and had lustful thoughts about her? Have you ever wanted something that you saw someone else have? Have you ever stolen? given false witness? used Gods name in vain? disrespected/dishonored your parents? If you have done any of these, then you are guilty of all of them before God.

Christ was not sent to the world to condemn it, but that the world through Him might be saved. Think about your children. If you tell your child to do something, and they disobey, do you not still love them? Do you not still give them everything they need, even if they do not deserve it? Do they not still come to you as a child and ask of you as a father? How much more so will God freely give to you if you call on Him?

My goal is not to convert anyone. My goal is to simply preach the word of God. Faith comes by hearing and hearing from the word of God. Granted, I do care about your decision, but I am not going to attack you for it. It is your decision and you will have to live with it and any consequences that follow, just as with any decision that you make.
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