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05-25-2008, 08:43 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: IAH commuter
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Originally Posted by Captain_Nameless
I really am not a Southwest basher. Never interviewed there, but it looks like it would be a ton a fun to work there.
However, it seems with oil heading higher and higher if you look at what Southwest has done--made air travel affordable for a such a huge number of people that could simply not afford it at all before there was a Southwest-- then how are these people going to pay when the hedging eventually escalates (and it will) to the breaking point?
I guess the question is, will the average Southwest passenger still be capable of paying in 3-5 years? Airplane travel is speed travel. There used to be a premium for speed. Southwest cut that premium. Will Amtrack and Greyhound resume their former more cost friendly place in the lives of the American traveller?
I think the smarter choice may be to go fly airplanes for the rich people. Someday soon they are all who will be able to afford flying again.
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Yes you are right about the rich people in the future, but they will be flying southwest also.
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05-25-2008, 01:56 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Originally Posted by randomguy
Classy.........
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I think you missed the sarcasm.
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05-25-2008, 02:11 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Originally Posted by Whirlpool
As for the rich....you will NOT see them on a SWA or any other airline. Most MAKE money during these economic times and do no want to subject themselves to the $hit service and security at the airport and from the airlines. NetJets, Citation Shares, and Flex Jet are all growing.....why is that?
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Maybe, maybe not - most people got rich by not spending their money. I would assume that the fractionals are flown by mostly companies, or at least paid for by mostly companies.
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05-25-2008, 02:14 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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The key to their success is a management team that thinks ahead, that cares about their employees. The most fundamental principle which has been forgotten in our industry...”the airline takes care of their employees, the employees take care of their customers, the customers take care of the stock holders”.
The problem with other airlines is that they try to take care of their investors first and foremost, no matter what the outcome might be to their workforce or their product. Southwest will always be successful because of their culture, not because of their hedges or any other cost saving tactic.
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05-25-2008, 04:59 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Originally Posted by Hansel Sanchez
The key to their success is a management team that thinks ahead, that cares about their employees. The most fundamental principle which has been forgotten in our industry...”the airline takes care of their employees, the employees take care of their customers, the customers take care of the stock holders”.
The problem with other airlines is that they try to take care of their investors first and foremost, no matter what the outcome might be to their workforce or their product. Southwest will always be successful because of their culture, not because of their hedges or any other cost saving tactic.
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Someone gets it....shack Hansel.
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05-25-2008, 05:07 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Originally Posted by D-Luv
Maybe, maybe not - most people got rich by not spending their money. I would assume that the fractionals are flown by mostly companies, or at least paid for by mostly companies.
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90% of the people I have carried have been private owners. In fact, they are our target audience. We do have companies in the fold..and I am not sure of the percentage of business we have but I would be willing to bet it is NOT better than half.
Our largest single customer is Marquis Jet. They re-sell time on the airplane and a HUGE portion of card owners are individuals.
Rich people STAY rich by being wise about their money and I can assure you that do not have a problem spending their money. For the most part, they are not fatally harmed by the current economic conditions...in fact, many flourish in it.
We are growing like crazy and have recently launched an internal campaign to have current pilots recruit more.
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05-25-2008, 07:02 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 994
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Originally Posted by T-Gagnon
We are growing like crazy and have recently launched an internal campaign to have current pilots recruit more.
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Good to hear - I've been dusting off the resume this weekend.
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05-26-2008, 12:06 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: IAH
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SWA is great to fly on. I usually buy my tickets to LAX on them. The seat is more comfortable than CAL's too. The only reason to go on a legacy these days domestic is if you fly enough to get the upgrade or travel first class. All the guys I know there are very happy with the job. It isn't the kind of flying I want to do but if I did then SWA would be the choice.
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05-26-2008, 10:03 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Originally Posted by T-Gagnon
In fact, they are our target audience. We do have companies in the fold..and I am not sure of the percentage of business we have but I would be willing to bet it is NOT better than half.
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Historically our owner base has been 70% company use/30% personal. The majority is company related. What is unkown is the number of "personal owners" who use their share for company business or the number of "company" owners who use it for personal trips.
"ABOUT OUR OWNERS
• 70 percent of NetJets new business comes from existing Owners and personal referrals.
• Owner Profile
– 50 percent of NetJets Owners are private companies using NetJets to help grow their businesses.
– 25 percent of NetJets Owners are public companies using NetJets to supplement their existing fleets, or as their primary business aviation tool.
– 25 percent of NetJets Owners are private individuals who use NetJets to enhance their quality-of-life.
• Some of our NetJets Owners include: Aetna, The Dow Chemical Company, General Electric, Prudential, Annika Sorenstam, Andre Agassi, and Tiger Woods. NetJets respects our Owners privacy, so we do not share their names unless we have been given permission to do so."
http://netjets.com/Learn_More/pdfs/N...Fast_Facts.pdf
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