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Old 05-14-2008, 09:38 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Taxi in on Engine 1. Not only will it benefit the passengers with a quieter cabin, but it may deter some of the rampers that like to open the door before the brake is even set.
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Old 05-14-2008, 09:52 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Well I have a friend at SKW that is telling me that it's not a done deal.............If you don't have anything solid to post don't post anything. FYI also....... Half of SKW pilots are on this board now, watch what you post...................................

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Old 05-14-2008, 09:55 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Well I have a friend at SKW that is telling me that it's not a done deal.............If you don't have anything solid to post don't post anything. FYI also....... Half of SKW pilots are on this board now, watch what you post...................................

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I doubt that, 1/2 of SW pilots didn't even vote for a union. I bet the only think 1/2 of SW pilots would ever do was cross a picket line if it meant a quick upgrade.


Yes, I do blame them for this shiit. Scumbags.
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I doubt that, 1/2 of SW pilots didn't even vote for a union. I bet the only think 1/2 of SW pilots would ever do was cross a picket line if it meant a quick upgrade.


Yes, I do blame them for this shiit. Scumbags.
YES!!! Steve gets it! I'm going to give you a hug next time I see you taking a leak in the EWR crewroom--Not to say that you take leaks in the EWR crewroom...I meant in the bathroom in the EWR crewroom.
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YES!!! Steve gets it! I'm going to give you a hug next time I see you taking a leak in the EWR crewroom--Not to say that you take leaks in the EWR crewroom...I meant in the bathroom in the EWR crewroom.
Just wait until I get that "shake". I don't wanna pee on your shoes!
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Old 05-14-2008, 10:09 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Except, CAL can look at the CPA every year and go else where. That isn't a 10-year deal!

They can also take 5 aircraft from us a MONTH without the pilots! We would be gone in 4 years!
Where did it say that CAL could loot at the CPA every year?

I read it over a few times and I read that CAL can review the CPA after the first year and send it out for rebid if they decide, SkyWest will get last look. After that first year the contract is stone for the next 9. Where are you getting something different? Where did it say EVERY YEAR?
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I doubt that, 1/2 of SW pilots didn't even vote for a union. I bet the only think 1/2 of SW pilots would ever do was cross a picket line if it meant a quick upgrade.


Yes, I do blame them for this shiit. Scumbags.
WOW ,that is the Steve we all know. It was about time my friend... Welcome back. and I agree with you. Thank god the good friends I have at SKW did vote for ALPA.
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Only if it was a fair and equitable (DOH) integration. SKW could buy us with CBA intact, which states we will be integrated with their list by mutual agreement. Say their idea is to staple us to the bottom of their list. We say no way, and there is no mutual agreement. If the list merger agreement is not reached, it goes to arbitration, and SKW says to the arbitrator XJT would have been bankrupt anyway, they should all go to the bottom. Then it's in the arbitrator's hands to decide if we would have gone bankrupt or not. It's a replay of AA-TWA. That went well.
Somebody please correct me, but has a law been passed about integration and what is fair integration, blah,blah, blah... I wish I could find what I mean.
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Old 05-14-2008, 10:54 PM   #59 (permalink)
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I think you're after the Allagheney-Mohawk Labor Protection Plan.
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Somebody please correct me, but has a law been passed about integration and what is fair integration, blah,blah, blah... I wish I could find what I mean.
H.R.2881

FAA Reauthorization Act of 2007 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)

SEC . 817 . LABOR INTEGRATION .
  • (a) Labor Integration - With respect to any covered transaction involving a covered air carrier that results in the combination of crafts or classes that are subject to the Railway Labor Act (45 U.S.C. 151 et seq.), sections 3 and 13 of the labor protective provisions imposed by the Civil Aeronautics Board in the Allegheny-Mohawk merger (as published at 59 C.A.B. 45) shall apply to the integration of covered employees of the covered air carrier; except that--
    • (1) if the same collective bargaining agent represents the combining crafts or classes at the covered air carrier, that collective bargaining agent's internal policies regarding integration , if any, will not be affected by and will supercede the requirements of this section; and
    • (2) the requirements of any collective bargaining agreement that may be applicable to the terms of integration involving covered employees of the covered air carrier shall also not be affected by and will supersede the requirements of this section, so long as those provisions supply at least the protections afforded by sections 3 and 13 of the Allegheny-Mohawk provisions.
  • (b) Enforcement- Any labor organization that represents individuals that are aggrieved as a result of a violation of the labor protective provisions applied under subsection (a) may bring an action to enforce this section, or to enforce the terms of any award or agreement resulting from arbitration or a settlement relating to the requirements of this section. An action under this subsection shall be brought in an appropriate United States district court determined in accordance with section 1391 of title 28, United States Code, without regard to the amount in controversy.
  • (c) Definitions- In this section, the following definitions apply:
    • (1) AIR CARRIER- The term `air carrier' means an air carrier that holds a certificate issued under chapter 411 of title 49, United States Code.
    • (2) COVERED AIR CARRIER- The term `covered air carrier' means an air carrier that is involved in a covered transaction.
    • (3) COVERED EMPLOYEE- The term `covered employee' means an employee who--
      • (A) is not a temporary employee; and
      • (B) is a member of a craft or class that is subject to the Railway Labor Act (45 U.S.C. 151 et seq.).
    • (4) COVERED TRANSACTION- The term `covered transaction' means--
      • (A) a transaction for the combination of multiple air carriers into a single air carrier; and which
      • (B) involves the transfer of ownership or control of--
        • (i) 50 percent or more of the equity securities (as defined in section 101 of title 11, United States Code) of an air carrier; or
        • (ii) 50 percent or more (by value) of the assets of the air carrier.
  • (d) Application- This section shall not apply to any covered transaction involving a covered air carrier that took place before the date of enactment of this Act.
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