pltja

A bit confused. I thought the last day was before ILIW? Thanks.

siupilot

it appears to me that it is when the bid closes. the requests section in the ad-opt program is the only way we have to request drops of RA days now.

pltja

Now that I have them assigned, as I understand per the contract, I can request to remove them before the ILIW. My confusion is how do I electronically request it to Crew Planning? The only request window open at this time on Ad-Opt is for Reserve/Relief Requests.

siupilot

Good question. When I placed my bid, I filled out the requests section and asked them to drop and any all RA days and so far, the first 4 day for April is not there and neither are the 2-3 RA days that I was expecting to see.

Neal Schwartz

You can either use the request box on ad-opt or if you have to, email Crew Planning. Remember, it isn't a real RA day until the start of the ILIW so you might not seem the remove that day until then. If I had a line with CI days and I didn't want RA days, I'd put that request in the ad-opt box and if Planning doesn't put any carry in trips on my schedule, then they will remove the RA days from my schedule. Basically you are saying in advance, "hey look, if you don't have carry in trips for me, drop my RA days."

-Neal

Puck

Yeah confused here too??

I Had CI days. RA'a were placed on my schedule last thur (when the awards come out). So I adopt-ed emailed them to remove the RA days. Well lucky me, they did revove them to replace them with a two day. :roll:

The way I see it they have just moved the "schedules final" date to the exact hour the ILIW opens so they really can get out of that contract provision.

Ohh well I'll try to trade them off if I can

Puck.

Neal Schwartz

No, those aren't RA days that they put on your schedule - they are just "placeholders" for RA days because there is not a CI code for the master schedule. When you look at your schedule during the adjustment period (period from when bids are awarded to the beginning of the ILIW), you aren't looking at your final schedule - you are looking at a work in progress. The company has an opportunity during this time period to put a replacement trip on your schedule over those CI days. Forget the fact you see RA days there. They mean nothing until the start of the ILIW because THAT is when your schedule is final, as per the language in Section 21. When you request to Crew Planning to remove any RA days you are in effect saying "Hey, if you aren't going to put an replacement trips on my schedule, don't put any RA days either." Again, don't look at your schedule mid-way through the adjustment period and think that that is your schedule because it is not. The company could solve this confusion in 2 ways. First, they could stop letting pilots look at their master schedule during the adjustment period (they can if they want) or second, they can have EDS build a CI code so they can stop using the RA code when they place hold those days.

-Neal

Where is the REAL TA?

The pool display is still not set. Any idea when that will occur? 7.5 hours till ILIW.

Puck

Ummm OK I'll buy that

Thanks Neal

Puck