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Frankly the thread seems to have been started to kick over a shiit pile. And by Rick's reaction we can see it worked. And thats what bothers me about "Chistians, Muslums", or whaterver
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Conversely, Athiests tend to get really PO'd whenever someone of faith mentions God (particularly Christians). So how does one explain that? To get angry over God without believing in Him? I guess one could say that it's not God who causes all the violence but human nature. Yes religion has caused some violence over the years but so have many different things. Just because human interpretation of their religion has caused controversey does not make a case that God doesn't exist. You cannot base a worldview on the abuses of its followers, it must be based on the founder of that particular worldview.