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Originally Posted by Yariv
BrianS, you compare you posting here to the existence of god, in terms of evidence. then you say that your post here is written evidence that you posted here, and the bible is written evidence of god's existence... I don't think I even need to explain how flawed that is.
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No such comparison was made. I said my post on here was evidence that I have posted on here thus I cannot say I've never posted here, which was a reference to what a self defeating argument would be. The written evidence of the existence of God is much different than what you are giving it credit for. Remember, I said it includes testimony from so many different people over such a long period who are in complete agreement without any intereaction between them. To say that the Bible is circular reasoning assumes it was written by one person or multiple people referring to each other's work. This isn't the case. If 40 authors write 66 books over 1500 years on 4 continents in 3 languages and come up with the same ideas without consulting each other, how can it be circular reasoning? Let's not stop at just the Bible, however. There are resources outside of scripture that give testimony of the life, miracles, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Many of these resources are from Jewish and Roman historians who were working against the Christians and yet still recorded these events in complete harmony with the Biblical accounts. If these historians were working against the Christians how can you include them in circular reasoning?
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Originally Posted by Yariv
for me to say that we cannot know anything, is indeed a theory and can be disproven if you find something that we can JUST know for sure without the need for the scientific process of hypothesis-evidence-theory. I don't think you can find such an example, give it a try. remember, it has to be something that doesn't have any evidence, and is OBVIOUSLY TRUE. if you there is such a thing and I'm not aware of it, then either I'm mentally challenged, or it doesn't meet the requirement of being OBVIOUS. if it's not obvious, it requires evidence... see the loop?
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Do you exist? There is something that is obviosly true, but cannot be scientifically proven anymore than God. Before you are too quick to offer proofs for your existence, make sure you give me a proof that cannot be made for God as well.
Now let's talk about these supposed contradictions in the Bible. I assure you I've read the posts on this thread which you can somewhat verify by looking at my posting history. I have seen no such contradictions expressed here. Would you give me an example of some of these alleged contradictions?