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Originally Posted by Fats Schindee
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Originally Posted by NPmom
So, I take it many of you believers don't think there is a correlation between what we do and what are "fate" may be in the end? ....(see original post)....This sort of back and forth distracts us from what we should be DOING in our daily lives.
Oh, and to the person that called me a dude, I'm not a he--check the avatar.
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Good post! Although I don't agree with a lot of the content (the existence of God, that non-believers will one day be "forced" to believe by life circumstances, etc.), I do wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment and message... |
me too. very well thought out and written and a great message.
I do agree that many believers, especially born again types (or anyone who 'finds' faith later in life as opposed to belief since childhood) are "forced" to believe by life circumstances. Religion fills an emotional gap in people who aren't able to fill it themselves. so when things get hard, we take the load off ourselves by having god watch over us, calling it god's will, and trusting that there is a good reason this is happenning, even if the reason is beyond us, and this will turn out for the best in the end. never mind that this is wishful thinking and 'the end' can be after death. this process helps us cope with the possiblity we refuse to consider, which is that the terrible things happening to us do not have a reason and do not lead to a good outcome. it helps us convince ourselves that it's not our fault (whether it really is or is not) becuase it's god's will. it helps ease the wait for the result, because we tell ourselves we're in god's hands and he'll take care of us. sounds like children and parents. religion gives you the ability to remain a child in an adult world.
2%, I feel like I'm repeating myself. I feel like I'm repeating myself.
you agree with micro evolution but not macro? I hate to tell you but there is no difference. in fact science is not using those terms anymore since they are two variations of the same thing. you understand how micro evolution works, which is small improvements in a species in response to environmental pressures. that's like seeing a newborn turn in to a 1-month old, or a 6-month old turn into a 1-year old. given enough time (and we're talking about MILLIONS of years here) the newborn turns in to an 80 year old. there is no resemblence between the two on the surface, so you find it hard to believe a baby can instantly mutate into a senior. well it's not instant, it's a whole bunch of micro step becoming a macro. you claim that one species can't become another species. the fact is that all species are related, and the point where we arbitrarily decide to name one animal 'species A' and another 'B' is subjective based on how it looks. in my analogy, the baby and the senior would be two different species since they look nothing alike. you'll say they have two arms, two legs, two eyes, big brain, etc, so they are alike. I agree - all species are alike. look at any land animal - elephant, zebra, tiger, man, monkey, we all have the same skeletal structure. even
whales! of course we're nothing like octupus or squid (which are alike) or shrimp or lobster (which are alike) but if you study enough fossils you'll see that all these branches on the tree come out of a common trunk. the first single cell organism. take a look
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can we agree that as amazing (beyond belief for some) as evolution is, it makes more physical sense than a supernatural power about whom we know nothing simply created all this? that doesn't make sense.
as was said here earlier, you claim there is not enough evidence for evolution, yet your replacement theory is one without ANY
* evidence? that doesn't make sense either.
* - or at best circumstancial evidence from people whose scientific knowledge was equal to today's 5 year olds.