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Originally Posted by Yariv
2%, termites aren't the only example of little change over millions of years. sharks are the same, as are armadillos, alligators and the best example - the cockroach. again, you show sign of not understanding evolution, despite your claim that you read up on it and understand it, even the difference between micro and macro. evolution is adaptation in response to changes in the environment. it's completely within the theory of evolution that if there are no changes in the environment affecting a species, that species won't evolve... very simple. certainly not a reason to believe species are the same today as when they were all created by god.
people, can we stop talking about the cramming of stuff down people's throats and about the reasons for posting on here? it's not interesting and not the subject of this thread. let's talk about whether god exists or not, and why you think so. no need to call anybody stupid or ignorant or to make generalizations. yes I know I've done it too. but let's have an intelligent debate instead.
I think we've had some progress recently. we heard from both sides that there is no physical evidence or god's existence. we heard faith compared to love and hope. can I say then that faith (and god himself) is an emotion? which means it exists within you? (and doesn't exist outside of you?) which is why we (those who believe) EACH have our own version of god? (which is probably similiar to someone influential in our lives like parents and grandparents?) and why different religions believe in different gods? and why god doesn't show himself unless you already believe in him? it all makes sense if god exists within you. any thoughts?
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you show sign of not understanding evolution, despite your claim that you read up on it and understand it, even the difference between micro and macro
i threw the termite thing out to get a response.. i didn't say i have a masters in evolution but i do have a good handle on it though... but thanks for the explanation makes sense.. now here is where it gets foggy for me.. i do believe in micro evolution.... but when your saying it goes crossing over into other things i just cant believe that... for example a goldfish will grow according to the size of tank that it is in... if you make the tank small enough and kept the fish in the environment long enough for some evolution to happen generational speaking i understand it will take a long time... but just cant fathom that fish turning into something else..1 it has to evolve or 2 it will go extinct...which is why i can't believe it and since human existance we haven't witnessed anything. .. and another reason is because my faith in the Bible. because it makes it so clear...
can I say then that faith (and god himself) is an emotion?
i guess that is one way of explaining it.. its his presents inside of knowing he knows your heart, your though, the bible talks about he though of you before you were born... but to limit God to an emotion.. you cant do that my emotions didn't create the world set physical laws like gravity in motion.. that is what i believe.. yes God causes emotions but he is not limited to them.. does that make any sense?
EACH have our own version of god? (which is probably similiar to someone influential in our lives like parents and grandparents?) and why different religions believe in different gods? and why god doesn't show himself unless you already believe in him? it all makes sense if god exists within you. any thoughts?
each of us has our own personal relationship with God...i would compare it to a parental relationship... that is totally open though, you cant hide anything from him, so you might as well talk to him about it.. unlike a literal set of parents..
it all makes sense if god exists within you.
it makes more sense if you have a walk with God.. not to say i understand everything but i guess that is what makes faith so comforting. you dont have to make gravity make sense on paper. so i guess what im trying yo say is it all makes sense through faith.. does that make sense....
people, can we stop talking about the cramming of stuff down people's throats and about the reasons for posting on here? it's not interesting and not the subject of this thread. let's talk about whether god exists or not, and why you think so. no need to call anybody stupid or ignorant or to make generalizations. yes I know I've done it too. but let's have an intelligent debate instead.
could not agree more... thanks