Flyin145's, I agree with most of what you said there, but be careful with the irreducible complexity argument (i.e. the flagellum) b/c it's not a good one to use. The "stone bridge example" pretty much sinks the basic idea of irreducible complexity and I don't think that's a bad thing.
That being said, there are far too many "coincidences" that allow us to be here, now, thinking and breathing. But, as any good scientist will tell you, chaos rules and stuff just happens.
In any case, I think Fats you hit it on the head. There are two, obviously, mutually exclusive concepts. To embrace one, by it's very nature eliminates the other from comprehension. If one decides to consider the other seriously, the first is rendered moot.
And yeah, the idea of worshiping all gods just to be safe is probably, imo, the most ridiculous option. What good would any god be if they fell for that?
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I see considerable zeal demonstrated here.
Take it easy though Wes, Stan was generalizing about both sides quite evenly. I agree whole heartedly that those people who do that are evil to the core. There is absolutely nothing Biblical about what they do and it's a shame they brand themselves "Christians". I can call myself a Unicorn, but it doesn't mean I am one.