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Old 03-22-2008, 06:44 PM   #920 (permalink)
Lenzilla
 
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Originally Posted by 2percent View Post
Lenzilla, hey man i appreciate you post... i went to church all through high school.. the reason i went was a fine girl went.... i called myself a "Christian" but on the weekends smoked weed drank ect..for the record she didn't... and at times probably gave some bad looks to non believers.... my point is not every one who say thay are christians are truly Chrisrians...you will know a christian by their fruit.. that is what the Bible says... a reasearch team was going around knocking on doors and asking the folks if thay believed in Christ.... 93% of them said yes.. yet church attendance was at 33%... so not all so called Christians are TRULY christians.... the Bible says straight is the way and narrow is the way that leads to life... and not all people who call Lord Lord will enter.... that does not suprise me about the the guy who gave you the finger... sad.... and yes alot of so called Christians are hypacrits.... i used to be one..... today yes i still fall short but now i feel convicted and learn from my screw ups... but i am forgiven... that is my beliefs.... Ok so the perpose of my entire life now as a Crhistan is to glorify God and bring people to Christ.... and i dont want to affend you at all that is not my job... and look the marrage thing with your wife... the member in this church may have lived a life sort of like mine.... yes thay had sex drank to much before ect.... but with what thay believe now... let me ask if you believe in something would you take a stand for it...
I appreciate the reply 2percent. I understand where you're coming from. I'm just saddened that so many are willing to judge me (and my wife) based on my beliefs and not by my actions. Take my wife for example-an atheist-she has raised the most wonderful, kind, loving child I have ever had the fortune to come across. It's with a great deal of pride that I call him my son. Sadly, when my parents first met her, they were extremely judgmental of and troubled by her because of a conversation about religion. My wife, not one to mince words or allow others to infringe upon her beliefs, stats that she doesn't believe in god. Wow, that went over like a fart in church (if you'll excuse the term).

Yet, my parents never go to church and never pray. Tomorrow, god won't be mentioned once. Nor will he be at christmas. But, were I to bring that up-fireworks at the Civitano household. Once again I end up back in that old familiar place, I'm expected to respect my parents beliefs even though I know more about their religion than they do. Meanwhile, I'm "ridiculous, naive, clueless, and senseless" according to some members of my family. Why the disparity in the way we respect each others beliefs? Why does religion receive such undue respect but seems (I said SEEMS) to be required to give none in return? The way I live my life more closely resembles christianity than does theirs in terms of my sense of morality, etc. My folks are christian only in the sense that they've managed to keep up appearances (and even then only to a degree (weddings in church, baptisms, etc.). But my wife got nothing but cold stares and snide comments from my father for the first two years of our relationship.

2percent, you certainly did not offend me (and I apologize once again for the punctuation/grammar comments, that's not like me at all. It was just nasty of me). It's people that treat religion the way my parents do that offend me. It's people that assume they know me or have the first inkling of a clue about my moral fiber based on their interpretation of right and wrong from the bible. If the gentleman (and I use that term very loosely) who said that I was one step above a homosexual or devil worshiper got to know me, I'd hope he'd feel very differently. Unfortunately, that probably would not be the case-simply because he knows I'm an atheist. I'll bet if I behaved the same way I do every day to that same person but proclaimed myself to be a christian, he'd think quite highly of me. There's a problem there, wouldn't you agree?

As far as standing for that in which I believe...yup, you bet your but that I do. That's the only reason I post about this topic. Believe me, lowering my blood pressure and anxiety levels are not the reasons.

Enjoy your Easter
Len
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