Quote:
Originally Posted by redbird
Yariv, i didn't really need a definition on evolution, I had to study it like everyone else. And yes my example is not the perfect representaion of the evolutionary state. I also imagine there is some very slight chance(>0) that the nut could get on the bolt. And yes I did read many of the posts, my statement was only intended to mean that I may be repeating something that had already been said.
It seems the person who started this thread demands proof of Gods existence because they choose not to believe in him. Only God himself can give the proof to an individual like him/her. No post on this thread can PROVE either position. As for me, I see undeniable evidence all around. And if nothing else, the nut and bolt example prooves my passion and determination in my beliefs. This is one of those subjects that has been debated for centuries. Perhaps for some, the only proof will come when they die.
|
sorry for underestimating. all I had to go by is your analogy and the fact that you disagree with modern science about evolution. to me that's similar to not agreeing with sciene about modern medicine, or about the earth revolving around the sun. but you're certainly entitled to your opinions and beliefs.
I agree that the only proof of god can come from god himself. that's because I find no such proof anywhere else, such as in nature. does this mean that until we receive such proof from god we have no reason to believe he exists? I guess you can say we already received it in the form of the bible or nature itself. yet there are large numbers of sane, intelligent people who do not consider this to be proof. don't you think an all powerful god can do better?
this subject has been discuessed for centuries, but for most of that time, we didn't know how electricity worked, we thought the sun revolved around the (flat) earth, and only for the last 150 years did we have logical, working explanation of how species develop and evolve. before then, it truly was a mystery and god was a good alternative to not knowing. 150 years is a short time compared to centuries.
you said that to not believe in god is to not be accountable for your own actions. I believe that the opposite is true. without god, we're just a bunch of people responsible for our own actions and creating our own purposes and morals. with god, we get everything handed to us on a platter from god. morals, purpose, physical and moral support, and when things don't go well we have an explanation. it's like being kids again, as opposed to responsible, accountable adults.